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Post  MetalJacob on Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:31 am

What are they? What are they for? How do you use them? How do you make them? When's the time to use them? What are some good ones?

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Post  Pippynip on Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:52 am

As I understand it, they're little add-ons or variations to a riff to kinda spice it up a little. 2 Minutes to Midnight by Iron Maiden has some good fills. You'll generally find them at the end of a bar.

Here's a very basic riff...

G----------------
D----------------
A----------------
E-2-0-5-0-2-0-5--

Same riff, with a fill

G----------------
D----------------
A-----------2-----
E-2-0-5-0-2---540--


Something like that. Probably.

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Post  DavidM96 on Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:08 am

The chili peppers use alot of fills, if that helps
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Post  willba on Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:20 pm

Yeah they're just little add-ons.

The type of fill I use depends on what kind of song im playing, the most common things I do is add mutes and extra notes here and there. Just play around and find some stuff that sounds good, then incorporate fittingly.
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Post  ThreeLetterSyndrom on Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:07 pm

Fills are little doodley-dadleys you play when there's an empty space that needs to be filled, or to transition to another riff. It's basically a mini-solo and can provide much needed variety.

As David mentioned, RHCP uses a lot of fills. Listen to a few of their songs and you'll get the drift.

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Post  MetalJacob on Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:06 pm

Thanks for all the advice! Anyone care to elaborate more? I still don't fully get how to make one/use one properly.

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Post  Dropthelines585 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:04 pm

Here's an easy method. Find what scale the song is in. Then when there's an empty spot between a verse and chorus or something like that. Throw in the pentatonic version of the scale real quick. And BOOM, you got yourself a fill.
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Post  Pippynip on Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:17 pm

I think Smells Like Teen Spirit is in F minor, there's a good place to start.

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Post  MetalJacob on Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:58 pm

Can you use fills anywhere? Besides between a verse and chorus and stuff? Like in the middle of a verse say it's just 8th notes, you could use a fill, right?

Also, Smells Like Teen Spirit couldn't be in F Minor. Unless the A that is used quite frequently is an accidental.

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Post  willba on Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:59 pm

Yes, you can use it at any time, as long as its appropriate.
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Post  Bass Mon on Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:00 am

A fill is as mentioned a little add on to the "main riff". It can be used anywhere in the riff to make it more interesting. Simple pentatonic scales work well and so do arpeggios. When I am jamming I have a main line. Every now and then I throw in a couple of little notes to make the riff less boring. Just make sure the scale shape relates to the chord or it might not sound as great.

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Post  MetalJacob on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:02 am

Alright thanks guys! Very Happy

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Post  Pippynip on Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:28 pm

There is no A in SLTS. At least, I've never played one. There's an E in the bridge, but I put that down to a key change.

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Post  MetalJacob on Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:45 pm

All the tabs I've seen for it had an open A. Meh.

Anyways, I'm having trouble switching strings. Like if something is being played like this:

-------5-----55----35---
--------------------------
---3------3------3-------
--------------------------

I know the only advice you guys can probably give me is to practice. But just in case there's something else, I'd figure it's worth asking for.

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Post  Pippynip on Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:50 pm

When I do something fast like that I tend not to move my thumb. I'd just anchor it on the E.

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Post  MetalJacob on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:34 pm

Hmm that post was actually supposed to be in my question thread. Oh well. Whenever I anchor to the E string the bones in my hand feel stretched or something and hurt really bad. Is there a certain angle you do it from?

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Post  lololiet on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:42 pm

What I do in a situation like that, when it´s only one or two notes on the higher (G) string, I don´t really anchor my thumb at all as much as I let it float above the strings before moving back to the lower string position.
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Post  Pippynip on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:43 pm

It's difficult to explain... I only really change the angles of my thumb and elbow. I keep my fingers at more or less the same angle they'd be whether my thumb was anchored on the E, A or D.

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Post  MetalJacob on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:46 pm

Well how do you not hit the other strings when reaching that far? I seem to have very little control when my fingers are that out-stretched.

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Post  Pippynip on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:48 pm

Yeah but that's the point, nothing's happening to my fingers. It's my thumb that's stretched.

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Post  MetalJacob on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:53 pm

Oh that makes sense! Alright will try both of these, see if I can get it. It's mainly the chorus of Hysteria that I'm having trouble with.

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Post  DavidM96 on Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:12 pm

when i do something like that riff i just have my pointer on the lower not and then my pinkie finger on the higher note
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Post  lololiet on Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:15 pm

pointer?
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Post  willba on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:07 am

pointer=index.

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Post  Dropthelines585 on Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:01 am

There are no A's in Teen Spirit. F, G#, Bb, Db.
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