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Post  maxf13 Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:51 pm

hi guys
im intereseted in learning some jazz chords and i tried to find sum stuff on youtube/google for a while but i have had no luck
does anyone know of any good tutorials/lessons on the net that could help me out?
ty guys in advance
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Post  SuperMaximo93 Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:56 am

What do you mean by jazz chords? Like 3 notes at the same time chords or arpeggios (which are used in all styles of music, and are a must if you want to improvise a walking bassline over a jazz chord sheet)? You can also combine notes in the arpeggios or scale tones to make multi note chords.

Try this place: http://www.cyberfretbass.com/arpeggios/index.php
Are you playing traditional walking jazz or just want to throw some chords together or what?
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Post  ThreeLetterSyndrom Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:21 am

A jazz chord is a very looooong chord xD

Example, for C major:
C E G Bflat D F A

You play the 7-chord, then plant a minor chord above it, +1:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
c d e f g a b c

Say we take C as root note, then we play C7, followed by a C+1=D minor chord. F? Play F7, followed by F+1=G minor chord. You can apply it a lot Wink

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Post  maxf13 Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:50 am

im looking to play sum chord type jazzy stuff
im just interested generally what type of chords jazz uses
https://freebasslessons.forumotion.com/my-music-f5/dmanlamius-brothers-of-the-green-wood-t170.htm
generally i mean a bit like this vid if that helps
ty for ur answers also
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Post  SuperMaximo93 Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:26 pm

ThreeLetterSyndrom, that utterly confused me lol! so what I'm about to say might be against what you've said, or repeat what you said Razz

If you want to go down the experimental Dman-esque route, then play a few chords you know and see what sounds good to your ears and piece together a song. Also you may want to use different chords in particular if you want to give your song a certain feel (happy song? Use happy chords, etc) Some good chords and arpeggios to use, all found in jazz and other genres (all starting on the root of C so you'll have your normal CDEFGABC if you played the major scale):

Your happy(er) chords:
C Major (CM):
C (root), E (3rd), G (5th)
For a 3 note chord play all these notes

C Major 7 (CM7):
C, E, G, B (7th)
For a chord play C, E, and B or or C, G, B

C dominant 7 (C7) The flat 7th makes the sound bluesy and not so jolly as major:
C, E, G, Bb (minor 7th)
For a chord play C, E, Bb (chord used in Groundhogs Day by Primus Smile )

C Augmented (C7#5) This one is kinda weird to my ears:
C, E, G# (sharp 5th), Bb (minor 7th)
C, E, G# or C, G#, Bb, sounds kinda weird, definitely not happy but not really sad

Sad chords:
C minor (Cm) Classic sad chord:
C, Eb (flat 3rd), G
Play all these for a chord

C minor 7 (Cm7):
C, Eb, G, Bb (flat 7th)
C, Eb, Bb sounds good, sound slightly happier than normal minor to me, but still sad

C half diminished (Cm7b5) Kinda depressing:
C, Eb, Gb (flat 5th), Bb
You could play C, Eb, Gb or C, Gb, Bb

C diminished (Cdim) Even more depressing:
C, Eb, Gb, A/Bbb (dunno if it counts as A or double flat (yes double flat exists))
You get the drill Razz

Just experiment and see what sounds good. Hope this helps man Very Happy
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Post  ThreeLetterSyndrom Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:18 pm

A C13 would be:
C E G Bb D F A

A Eb13 would be:
Eb G Bb Db F Ab C

Four bars C, four bars Eb. Improvise.

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Post  SuperMaximo93 Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:32 pm

ThreeLetterSyndrom wrote:A C13 would be:
C E G Bb D F A

A Eb13 would be:
Eb G Bb Db F Ab C

Four bars C, four bars Eb. Improvise.

I see what you mean now lol!
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Post  maxf13 Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:52 pm

TY MAX
that was exactly what i was looking for
and yh i no that a double flat exist XD
that was sum great advice there

EDIT: +1 for u
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Post  maxf13 Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:57 pm

SuperMaximo93 wrote:

C diminished (Cdim) Even more depressing:
C, Eb, Gb, A/Bbb (dunno if it counts as A or double flat (yes double flat exists))
You get the drill Razz


me thinks its Bbb
cause other wise it would be an augmented 6th (i think) and not a diminished 7th

EDIT : omg what i wrote made no
sense
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Post  DavidM96 Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:30 am

SuperMaximo93 wrote:ThreeLetterSyndrom, that utterly confused me lol! so what I'm about to say might be against what you've said, or repeat what you said Razz

If you want to go down the experimental Dman-esque route, then play a few chords you know and see what sounds good to your ears and piece together a song. Also you may want to use different chords in particular if you want to give your song a certain feel (happy song? Use happy chords, etc) Some good chords and arpeggios to use, all found in jazz and other genres (all starting on the root of C so you'll have your normal CDEFGABC if you played the major scale):

Your happy(er) chords:
C Major (CM):
C (root), E (3rd), G (5th)
For a 3 note chord play all these notes

C Major 7 (CM7):
C, E, G, B (7th)
For a chord play C, E, and B or or C, G, B

C dominant 7 (C7) The flat 7th makes the sound bluesy and not so jolly as major:
C, E, G, Bb (minor 7th)
For a chord play C, E, Bb (chord used in Groundhogs Day by Primus Smile )

C Augmented (C7#5) This one is kinda weird to my ears:
C, E, G# (sharp 5th), Bb (minor 7th)
C, E, G# or C, G#, Bb, sounds kinda weird, definitely not happy but not really sad

Sad chords:
C minor (Cm) Classic sad chord:
C, Eb (flat 3rd), G
Play all these for a chord

C minor 7 (Cm7):
C, Eb, G, Bb (flat 7th)
C, Eb, Bb sounds good, sound slightly happier than normal minor to me, but still sad

C half diminished (Cm7b5) Kinda depressing:
C, Eb, Gb (flat 5th), Bb
You could play C, Eb, Gb or C, Gb, Bb

C diminished (Cdim) Even more depressing:
C, Eb, Gb, A/Bbb (dunno if it counts as A or double flat (yes double flat exists))
You get the drill Razz

Just experiment and see what sounds good. Hope this helps man Very Happy

Is there any chance i could get a simplified version of what you just said?
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Post  SuperMaximo93 Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:49 pm

DavidM96 wrote:Is there any chance i could get a simplified version of what you just said?

Uh... Razz

Well basically fret the note C and then fret the other notes that are given to you. Then strum them or play them in whatever way you want and see what you like Smile So if you wanted a major chord (the happy one) then fret C, E, and G simultaneously and play them however you want. You can also play around with the different notes however you want, so instead of using the E above the C, you could use the low E string instead, for example. Just play around with these chords and variations in notes and playing styles and you'll be able to put together some nice tunes. Try different combinations of chords in different positions. Hope this helps somewhat, please say if you need more clarification or anything Smile
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Post  DavidM96 Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:51 pm

That pretty much sums it up, thanks! Very Happy
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